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I used to be very left wing.
Even in my most radical days, the one point of variance I had with my fellow travellers was education. In England (not Britain as a whole) state schools are now judged to be amongst the worst in the developed world. However the 'Public' Schools (read private and very exclusive) of England are reckoned on, in the same piece of analysis, as being the best in the world. This has been obvious to anyone since the 'dissolution' of the Grammar Schools.
Traditionally, the cleverest schools in England have included:
Winchester; Westminster; St Paul's (both boys and girls); North London Collegiate; Cheltenham Ladies College etc.
This set intersects with but does not map perfectly upon the 'best schools', a list of which would include schools that are not as academically orientated.
Grammar Schools, until their abolition, gave the best chance of social mobility that England had seen since Agincourt (This day shall gentle your condition). From the postwar period until the 70's the Oxford and Cambridge intake consisted of more Grammar School pupils than alumni of the great (or even minor) Public Schools. There are still a few Grammar Schools left, but they are, as folk point out, selective. Selection is regarded as a bad thing. Yet the few good state schools in England are oversubscribed to such an extent that house prices in the catchment areas for such schools have in some cases a 30% premium. This is in the English housing market, which is madness anyway. This means that parents who can afford to live in the catchment areas of good schools will claim those places, which is a selection by income. Grammar Schools selected by ability, which to me seems fairer.
However, there aren't a lot of Grammar Schools in London.
Given all this I can understand anyone of any political hue sending their children to a 'Public' School, should they be able to afford it.
The equivalent sort of secondary education to the one I had (with a recognisable curriculum) now costs £25,000 pounds a year. There have been numerous years when I haven't earned that in total. I despaired of ever educating potential children, which is probably the reason I didn't have any.
If I had a disabled child or an educationally challenged child, of course, if I could afford it, I would attempt to give them the best possible education in the circumstances.
Now I must admit something. I don't like Ruth Kelly. I don't like what she stands for. I don't like her links with Opus Dei. I don't like the fact that she has acquiesced to, abetted,  and been an apologist for, the war in Iraq (which in my eyes makes her a war criminal of a kind).
But I do like the fact she's doing the best for her son, and as she seems to need defending on this (and possibly only this) I find myself, surprised maybe, but nevertheless coming to her defense.
Or am I just showing prejudices typical of my caste and culture.

Date: 2007-01-09 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Wasn't thinking about war, I was thinking about the amount of research that goes into weaponry/gear used in civil disturbance, and police roles. I'm not certain, but I would imagine there's less crime in better educated communities. That's where I reckon the cost-benefit analysis would be best employed. If tax paying for good education reduces crime rates (so the savings are then on police, prisons, judicial process etc) and if the savings prove to be greater up to an optimum point...
I'd like to see the best value possible for my taxes, in conjunction with the point in the graph where there's minimal possible disturbance, if you see what I mean.
I'm sort of with you on taxes, it's just I'd like to factor in savings from other areas, if it can be done.

Date: 2007-01-09 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
Thats a slant I hadn't heard before on the issue. However, moving down that path as a devil's advocate, I wonder: what's the average detection rate of white-collar crime in a white-collar community? Obviously a murder on the street is not going to be common there, but, perhaps, some slimy work on the stock market is more common?

re war research. It's a double-bladed sword. A lot of the $$ that comes from military work goes to fund graduate students in their study here. So without that money, they wouldn't even be able to go to school- unless we isntituded a replacement. And military research drives interesting innovation to deal with the chaotic nature of the situation.
The industrial/military complex drives both good and bad in the world.

Date: 2007-01-10 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I would imagine white collar crime requires a white collar police force, which would cost more. But hopefully (that awful word) a better educated society would be more productive and efficient. Swings and roundabouts, and even if my 'policy' was better, by the time the politicians and bureaucrats got hold of it, messed with it, and implemented it, it would be changed to the point of unrecognisability. My opinion is that for the time being, solutions have to be simple enough for simple people (like politicians) to understand. But I can hope (and wish for better).
The MI complex does employ lots of folk.
Redeploy to the space industry - sooner or later we've got to get off this ball of mud and out there.
If you'll excuse the split infinitive, I'd like to see our chaps 'going boldly', if you see what I mean (& wouldn't object to doing that myself).

Date: 2007-01-10 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Not a split infinitive, evidently my subconscious wouldn't let me write it properly. Boldly go. Bugger.

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