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Fuck me sideways, I didn't see that coming:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm

This guy is shaping up to being one of the greats, but you should hear what they say about him in America. He may yet turn out to be the US Tony Blair, but somehow I doubt it.

omg

Date: 2009-10-09 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zuma.livejournal.com
[*blink*]
jaw on floor

Date: 2009-10-09 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-bitters.livejournal.com
While I voted for Obama, I am dreadfully disappointed in him. He was elected to clean up the Bush Mistake and has failed to do so. Instead, the banks received a huge bailout that made them profitable, but at the expense of the American people. His "leadership" on health care reform has been non-existent. What we are going to get is corporate welfare, mandated purchase of services, no change what so ever on affordability, and the same old games the private insurance companies have been doing about charging high premiums and denial of claims. I want to know what he's going to do next to fuck us.

I didn't believe the hype last year, but I wanted to. I just didn't want that asshat McCain to win. Another 4 years of completely incompetent, utterly clueless so called leadership scared the hell out of me. So I settled for mostly clueless and seemingly incompetent.

What has happened with this award is that it shows once again the insanely political mindset of the committee. Obama hasn't done anything and doesn't deserve the award. Arafat was a mass murdering terrorist and didn't deserve the award. The prize is made cheap by this nonsense. I'm not opposed to Obama winning it, I just want him to have done something to merit it.

Date: 2009-10-09 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Although not built in a day, Rome was burned over the space of a day.
The night is yet young. Rebuilding takes time. Getting certain intransigent types to come aboard takes even longer, it seems.

The banks have taken the bailout and then proven they are not to be trusted. Bonuses abound.

But the award, and the citation in the award was for....I quote the BBC's coverage:

The statement from the Nobel Committee said Mr Obama had "created a new climate in international politics".

"Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play," it said.

It's not about at housekeeping, it's about getting on with the neighbours.

Date: 2009-10-09 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Superfluous 'at' in the last sentence. Sorry.

Date: 2009-10-09 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fountaingirl.livejournal.com
We're kind of a mess over here. We've put our foot in it, over the better part of a decade, blithely pissing off whomever wasn't useful to us, and fashioning a philosophy increasingly centered on a mix of the religious beliefs of a minority of very conservative christians and the monetary needs of the military industrial complex.

It's going to take a damn long time to untangle it. I, too, get frustrated with Obama. I have a mental Laundry List of Redress, with many items on it that I just insist he fix. But the very fact that we're in as much of a mess that we're in, and that the mess itself came on the back of a worldview that doesn't exactly embrace openmindedness and civil liberty, means that Obama has to be steady and sure and moderately paced.

I for one am scared as hell that someone is going to assassinate him, frankly. And I think this is one reason he is going at a good pace but not yet causing a dustup in rearranging how we do things.

Date: 2009-10-09 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-bitters.livejournal.com
Slow rolling it would be fine if he actually bothered to lead on the things that need changing. Instead, we are left with a President that hasn't done squat for us.

Date: 2009-10-09 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-bitters.livejournal.com
I read their reason, and I think it's BS. Nothing has come of that either. I am utterly convinced that it's another political decision by the committee that cheapens it further.

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