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That's one betting slip I can tear up then. So much for my vaunted  ability to predict the future. My augeries have let me down. Next time it's goat's entrails: enough of the birds flying from left to right and all that Roman jazz.

Date: 2010-05-07 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
*shrug*
well hope folks can sort stuff out.


heh fortune-telling's always been a tad chancy ;)

Date: 2010-05-08 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
will i meet a dark man?

Date: 2010-05-08 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
HAH!

good answer.

Date: 2010-05-08 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
Ooo. Third party power. This should be interesting.

I do hope things are resolved reasonably amicably and lead to a better result for the country.

Date: 2010-05-08 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torpidai.livejournal.com
Ooo. Third party power. This should be interesting.

uh hu, should be, but I doubt there will be too much "Fun" involved, just bickering, lots and lots of bickering, they will however have to share the blame for the cuts that are needed, and or the failure to correct the financial problems Mr "I couldn't count as chancellor either Dictator" Brown has managed to dig us all and our children into.

I do hope things are resolved reasonably amicably and lead to a better result for the country.

What would YOU suggest would be a better result? all those in the "House" all P*** in the same pot, politics, like Law is just a game to these people, the HOP is nothing more than a drinking mans club where they discuss changes that affect the whole country (and quite often others too).






Date: 2010-05-08 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
...and or the failure to correct the financial problems Mr "I couldn't count as chancellor either Dictator" Brown has managed to dig us all and our children into.

It all rather depends on your particular econmic analysis: so what's your take on the situation, apart from, that is, flailing wildly in apportioning blame for what either appears to be a global economic crisis, or any of the deregulations that Brown enacted, and which the Tories wanted pushed further?

It's all very well blaming folk, sometimes even constructive to blame the folk who are actually to blame: however, I would ask for specifics in your prosecution, and how you think those you champion would have done differently, given that you've aired your comments on my blog.

In short, justify your statement, sir: and from an economic viewpoint please, as economics is evidently your point-of-concern given your statement about Brown's culpability in the international economic crisis, and his inability to correct the problems thereof.

Date: 2010-05-08 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torpidai.livejournal.com
I would ask for specifics in your prosecution, and how you think those you champion would have done differently, given that you've aired your comments on my blog.

you are quite right of course, whatever happenned to a free and fair trial at noon, hanging in the market square at 2?

Where would you like me to start with Spendthrift Brown? I could start with the countries Gold he sold at bargain basement money, or his insistance that all public bodies use the PFI model instead of more cost-effective methods of obtaining items that are needed. Maybe you'd like me to go into the costs of Millibands change of logo and letterheads for the Civil service, or better yet the ever increasing expenditure on "Spin"?

as for "Champion" I'll assume you meant Davie boy? and I doubt he would have done anything differently either, no party would when they are in power, the loans are on the countries head, the benefits and backhanders tend to be their own, why would they care in a capitalist country?








Date: 2010-05-08 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I'll give you gold, PFI, and will give you another pensions raid for free. And the appurtenances of position by the Milibands of the world to boot.

And yet, for some of us he still appears more economically competent than any of his rivals, especially given their respective policy statements.

Vince Cable has evidently listened to his advisers, but I do wonder about the specifics of his policies as they seem a trifle confusing.

Shedding public service jobs has to be staggered to fit into (hopefully) an economy of slow growth: the Tories are suggesting they can ignore any 'question of timing' to manage this unemployment.

All this may well be merely a stupid debate about nothing however, if the Greek contagion extends to Spain etc.

Germany (77.20%), and France (79.20%) both of whose National Debt expressed as a percentage is greater than the UK's (68.50%), now have to borrow to bail out Greece. And the vulture-led market will move on to Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, and neither Germany nor France can afford to bail 'em all out.

The US's National Debt expressed as a precentage is reckoned as being more than 90% though it is often claimed to be as low as 40%.

If the Market doesn't rein itself in, it's going to kill its host, which isn't good for the business of a parasite.


This Greek thing could be, given the nature of the industrial and post-industrial world, the beginning of a cascade that breaks capitalism: because, after all, nothing's too big to fail really, including the whole capitalist system.

I don't think we need to worry too much about whichever leader we have at present, because until Politics regains primacy over the 'Market', as the plucky Hunnish lass Angela Merkel mentioned, politicians can actually do very little.

Date: 2010-05-10 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torpidai.livejournal.com
Shedding public service jobs has to be staggered to fit into (hopefully) an economy of slow growth: the Tories are suggesting they can ignore any 'question of timing' to manage this unemployment.

Public service jobs also need to reflect the trends more closely, Driving examiners for example, are often taken on 18 years after a peak in baby numbers, yet it seems to take years for the numbers to lower again as civil service tends to use "natural fallout" deaths and retirement etc to lower those staffing rates again.

If the Market doesn't rein itself in, it's going to kill its host, which isn't good for the business of a parasite.

This will be a tough one, the Market has too much autonomy and no "Strong ethical leader", lots of little scammers taking old ladies for all they have whilst flying under the radar of the "Leaders", I'm no financial wizard, but I can see future problems with the present system, once more dumping the poor well out of it. I find it laughable that people consider spending £5 on a cup of coffee, I find it even more laughable at just how many consider "Inflation" to be the major factor reflecting the coffee price :o We cannot continue screwing the third world for our goods, their water table is getting lower and lower and more polluted, it'll come back on us all soon and bite us in the A$$

As for the bailouts, I'd have let the banks fail to be quite honest, everyone was insured to the tune of £30K per acct, the people would not have lost out the way the public and their grand-kids have been re-mortgaged to pay for rich mens greed.

after all, nothing's too big to fail really, including the whole capitalist system.

My father once said, "It's the best system we know" and whilst I keep trying to claw my way out of it, I doubt I could pay my rent by barter-system, I do know I'd have a much more varied life if we were all left to our own devices (and own food production) instead of being forced into the 9-5 routine, but making that work and having some sort of saftey net is nigh on impossible these days.


Date: 2010-05-10 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Just pointing out that the 'spendthrift' Mr Brown has actually left our economy slightly less vulnerable (by some 10%, or more if you look at most recent figures) than any of the other major trading nations, all of whom are dealing with the same mess in much the same sort of way.

Credit where its due. Which is difficult for some folk to manage. It seems that no-one appreciates the economic hand he's played relative to the 'market'. F'rinstance, when the stockmarket goes down the tubes and your broker loses 10% less than all the others....do you sack him immediately? We are so easily led in this country. I actually think the competence to do the job is rather more important than telegenic qualities: and because I've seen humans over the years I expect my very-good administrators to be socially inept and verging on Asperger's. As long as they can do the job: and by any objective measure, when it comes to the economy, and to extend a metaphor, Gordon's beaten the market by 10%. If he were a banker, his bonus would be pretty spectacular. As is, a two year campaign of vilification and ridicule has meant that no-one in the UK can think clearly when it comes to him, his policies, or just how much even deeper shit he has managed to keep us out of.

As someone with an interest in economic history I'm of the opinion that it will take a Stalinist revision to rehabilitate ol' Shrek: that's not going to happen for a generation or two, as we know. However, fair's fair: some of us can look at the figures and see what has really been going on, and draw our own conclusions.

Date: 2010-05-08 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
I would suggest a better result would be a careful analysis of what the problems are and their causes, then examining the roots of the causes and taking action to legislate away or remove legislation that causes the roots to happen.

An ideological assault on capitalism, socialism, fascists, elites, or masses will not help the issue. Careful attention to finding causes of problems and dealing with them will help much better than sticking starkly to blaming one group or the other.

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