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Poor Mad Jeremy is coming around for tea.

Correction: I finished writing that sentence just before 2pm and the doorbell rang.

Gods PMJ is looking his age and then some. He's lost many of his teeth, and years of institutionalisation have left him hugely overweight and unfit.

He hasn't been playing much guitar, but I think I managed to re-enthuse him with the joys of shredding. We had a long discussion on the merits and defects of Ritchie Blackmore and both came to the conclusion that he is the most overlooked player of the 'Golden Age'.

Poor Ritchie: he went mad, then invented a rock music that did not have enough Africa in it. But when he was good ('70-'73) he was obviously the tallest poppy in the field. In fact we were debating whether or not, during that period, he could have slotted into Miles' band line-up. Because the Blackmore of that period was a wittier guitarist than McLaughlin, and with a similar level of blinding technique.
Bit of a shame he became po-faced about it all.
There's no point in basing your life on a sense of humour failure.
Ritchie, where are you now?

Drove Poor Mad Jeremy back to his sheltered accommodation. Will see him later during the week, and put more tea in front of him, and try to stop him dribbling too much on my number two Strat.
 

Date: 2008-02-25 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
What's your opinion on current Blackamore? He's wandered off into left field doing some "fantasy-esque" themes and I know he's getting panned.
*I* think his current stuff is lovely.

Date: 2008-02-25 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I haven't bought any of his music since the 70's, but I have listened to the odd bit here and there.

I like my mediƦval influenced music to have some pretense to authenticity, though I did listen to a band called Gryphon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gryphon)*in my youth. The stuff I heard from Blackmore about two or three years ago seemed a bit of a halfway house. I shall have to search out his new stuff.

*Richard Harvey is a bit of a genius.

Date: 2008-02-25 06:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ericcoleman
Red Queen to Gryphon Three was one of my favorite records a couple 100 years ago.

I need it on CD

Date: 2008-02-25 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I need a CD of 'Midnight Mushrumps'. I have it somewhere on vinyl but....

Date: 2008-02-25 06:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ericcoleman
It's the one that I actually have on CD. I want a good example of the prog stuff too

Date: 2008-02-26 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
I've largely given up on authenticity unless it's honest, old-timey, 1960s-type folk, where the band is still picking the straw from out of the violin case.
Modern 90's era world beat has jaded me on authenticity, it all feels so phony. Especially when the backbeat kicks in, in Ye Olde Elvis Styele.

Date: 2008-02-26 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio3_aod.shtml?radio3/earlymusicshow

Check out the early music show. No sawdust.

Date: 2008-02-25 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
we were debating whether or not, during that period, he could have slotted into Miles' band

Interesting thought, that. But beyond wit and technique, there was a certain outsideness of melodic/harmonic relation that I think the King of Bitches sought for the denizens of his personal Watts. Mahavishnu seemed to have grokked this rather well.

Date: 2008-02-25 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Yeah I'll agree with you up to a point. When you listen to Miles' two guitar band, you know what: Pete Cosey's a fine player, as is Reggie Lucas, but they seem to be ploughing a similar furrow to Blackmore during the '70-'73 period.
It's what the debate was about. We didn't reach any firm conclusions.

Wither, Ritchie - general reactions

Date: 2008-02-25 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ankh156.livejournal.com
There was always something horribly white and (thatched-) british about DP. I was required to learn Black Night and Speed King 'back in the day'. I had a sneaking admiration for RB, his sound was one of the 'ripest' of all time, and with his hands on the instrument, riffing like a mad thing and playing tightly-scripted solos, there was nothing quite like him. He was not copying Hendrix, and neither was he a blues regurgitator. When I saw him (with DP) at Wolverhampton Civic hall in 1971 I was quite delighted until he did his own solo break. Then he went into this hammering/pull-off thing which was neither rhythmic or melodic. I was appalled. No humour, no fun, no interest. I couldn't believe somebody who had played so excitingly and so faultlessly up until then would offer this as his personal gift. He took his strat off (a very nice black one) and put it atop his Marshall stack and wiggled the trem. I giggled. I'd seen Hendrix do similar stuff - it was funky, musical and ... sexy. RB... I just had no idea what he was after. I know McLaughlin has not much humour either, but at least he was influenced by early RnB, James Brown, and of course Jazz. RB, whilst a formidable player was in another universe, certainly from JH, and even from JM. We know that Miles wanted to collaborate with Jimi, but thought he needed training and discipline. RB didn't really swing. All of Miles' guitarists could at least swing - even Mike Stern. I find it hard to even imagine RB in Miles' band. Miles used to say to his musicians 'I'm not interested in what you know how to play.' RB only played (plays) what he knows. I think Miles would have said 'Either you go beyond that, or you get out of the (motherfuckin') band'.
Edited Date: 2008-02-25 07:59 pm (UTC)

Re: Wither, Ritchie - general reactions

Date: 2008-02-25 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Ritchie didn't really swing....
Check 'Made in Japan' m'dear....his solos show a greater rhythmic sophistication than McLaughlin of the period. I still defy anyone to say DP didn't swing after hearing 'Lazy' from the 'Made in Japan' album. (But not the studio version.)

Date: 2008-02-26 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I don't think he reads this, in fact I know he doesn't. Oh shit. I'll lock it.

Date: 2008-02-26 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
word to the wise! even mad people can see the internet!

Date: 2008-02-26 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Gratitude.
I 'friended you on facebook. How does one play scrabble on it?
You know I'll lose and be grumpy for ever, don't you?

Date: 2008-02-27 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
that or i will.
then we play again.

i started a game, so you should have been invited to it. grr. i will start another one. this sometimes happens.

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