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Came across this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/16/sciencenews?gusrc=rss&feed=science

All I can say is chaps in England must have some of the most genetically damaged sperm in the world.....'cause almost no-one in a relationship in England manages daily sex: it's more along the lines of whenever Madame can fit it into her schedule/can be bothered/hasn't a headache. I hope that the chaps across the pond get a better deal.
Still not gay yet.....but I'm certainly ambivalent enough towards the enemy gender to encourage change. I don't suppose gay folk worry too much about the potential damage to their child fathering capabilities, and I should be too old to care. 

Also, it appears being gay maybe genetic:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_sc/gay_genetics_6;_ylt=AqpOM38y0nDH0bl9EEMvm6uEDvII

So my attempts to change my orientation (because, after all I'd rather be one of the sinners than the self-righteous, smug, bigoted wankers for whom heaven sets such arbitary rules) may be impossible.
If being gay is genetically determined, the religions that claim they know the mind of God are going to have to eat an awful lot of humble pie.
I reckon a barefoot pilgrimage to Jerusalem might just about cover the penance for individual homophobia....but as for the collective sin of the churches....

We could always burn the homophobic preachers and pastors....there's the chair too.

I'm becoming zero tolerant. And it makes me happy. Some mornings it's a damn good job I don't wake up in a country that has legal guns.

Date: 2007-10-16 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosethorne.livejournal.com
I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter if homosexuality is genetic or not. It's still natural and perfectly fine.

Date: 2007-10-16 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I tend to agree. I also think a lot of this behaviour is learned. But if it has a genetic basis, I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing with which to beat the priests over the head. All religions that have strictures about homosexuality between consenting adults....bin them and burn them.
Folk should be prepared to stand up against the cryptofascist religious nutters of every persuasion.

Especially the ranting marginal types.

Date: 2007-10-16 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
i'd like a gun. but i don't want anyone else to have one.

really, i'd like a sticker gun, which has what a selection of slogans and really sticky glue.

also, i am kind of looking forward to going on seroxat so i can get the chemical castration. i can't believe i just said that.

Date: 2007-10-16 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Does Seroxat do that for chaps too?
Might be worth a try.... thought about bromide in my tea....but I'm not in a relationship at the moment, so, I'm not quite that frustrated.
I'll have to wait until I'm in another relationship and back being rationed, my dear. Why relationship dynamics develop such patterns I can only speculate, but sooner or later everything (including the kitchen sink) gets thrown into the struggle for moral ascendency; a particular dynamic to which it appears all relationships devolve.

It is through the relationships with our parents that we first become aware of the 'guilt trip'. We learn to use it properly in our relationships with our equals. We instruct through it in our relationships with our children.
I am now expert. Ergo, sooner or later all of my relationships become untenable, because these are 'women's tactics'. And sooner or later my partner will use all the weapons she has left to let me know who's boss.
Then I fuck off.

This might even be true.

Date: 2007-10-16 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
yup. although it is not guaranteed in either sex. i became anorgasmic after about 6 months on it last time round, and since i was in an active sexual relationship at the time i thought it was too important to sacrifice, so i came off. coming off is horrendous, but what is probably worse is how inactive i have become, and so since sex is no longer on the table, so to speak, i think i may as well not have it as a priority.

is it really the moral high ground that stops sex? for myself, i don't know what exactly it is, i think it has been different each time. but it does happen. i find it heartbreaking.

Date: 2007-10-16 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I suppose all my relationships revolve for about half the time around my own concerns. I may be misplacing cause and effect. I try quite hard to be in the right.
I'm clever, very well read, and sound like Brian Sewell's posher relative. And I'm particular about being right (in the sense of correct). Even my more learned and brilliant ex's didn't necessarily beat me in debate, which could, and did, sometimes rankle. Not that relationships should be about debate....but I tend to react to some offhand remarks....I'm still quite left-wing compared to, let's say, the Fox Network, or even in comparison to my last ex, and casual racist remarks, for example could set me going.
Wrenching the moral high ground away from my grasp seems to be something that every single girlfriend I've ever had has tried (barring one otherwise gay woman, it must be said). And it's not as if I compete...because I recognised that may have been contributing to my failure rate very early on. I'd just rather be right, that's all: which is not the same as 'righter than you', wherein I think lies a difference.
But it's not one that my partners have necessarily appreciated.

Actually, I'd rather everyone was 'right'.

Date: 2007-10-16 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
i'm usually right. but i don't think that's what kills the sex off. because i am also massively easygoing and agreeable and not argumentative. (just right)

Date: 2007-10-16 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sancho543216789.livejournal.com
you could always build a ship and renconquer the Sandwich Islands; take their women and their pinneapples

Date: 2007-10-16 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I doubt that I could find the moral justification for such an action. However much it might appeal to the freebooting side of my nature. Besides, I'm not too fond of pineapple, and women without degrees*....I am a civilised man and I expect to be able to converse (read: argue) with the object of my affection.
As must be becoming increasingly obvious, I need a Xanthippe-like woman of a particular kind. Someone with all the abilities of a shrew, who refrains from being such.



*Normally women without postgraduate degrees, but beggars can't be choosers.

Date: 2007-10-17 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sancho543216789.livejournal.com
Islanders don't have degrees you vaguley imply? Death by pineapple for you!

Date: 2007-10-17 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sancho543216789.livejournal.com
'vaguley' shaped pinneapples mind you

Date: 2007-10-18 04:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-10-17 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tripinthehead33.livejournal.com
People in England still have sex?? One of my ex's left London because know one there knew how to do it right.

Date: 2007-10-17 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
You could have let me know earlier....dammit.

Date: 2007-10-18 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tripinthehead33.livejournal.com
Lol, I didn't know you then. :p She traversed Europe, nearly killed a man in Greece pleasuring him and then met me. I feel privelaged, if more than a bit deprived since we broke up. :(

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